No doubt about that. I don't worry about McCain on defense. I guess the immigration issue is not as high a priority as I thought with people
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Moon Puppy wrote:

As one of the Fred supporters who got sucked away from Huck let me tell ya, Huck was not second choice. Duncan Hunter would have been my back up. Dude, I would have voted for Paul before I would have voted for Huck. I don't think he's who he's saying he is.

Well, I wasn't talking about you, specifically. There was certainly an increase in support for Fred, which corresponded directly to a loss of support for Mike, especially in the Upstate, about a 6% swing in the last two weeks from what I can tell.
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Gadget Wizard wrote:

Them Damn Yankees again.

I didn't do it, scout's honor!

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Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. - Robert Heinlein

See who your county picked
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How do you browse in there, Moon? I see the names with colored squares by them, but nothing is clickable.
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Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. - Robert Heinlein

Huckabee won nearly all of the upstate counties, but not by a large enough margin.

Oh, well. I said it was going to happen. Hope the GOP gets the amnesty legislation they deserve with the likes of McCain and Lindsey Graham.
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Vice President Graham....You know that's who he will pick IF he gets the nomination.
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Congratulations to McCain

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/us/politics/20carolina.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Interesting to see how the counties voted:

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/SC.html

(scroll down for map)

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“Fred hurt us in South Carolina,” Beasley began. “He had one goal and one goal only -- to distort Mike Huckabee’s record so John McCain could pull it out. No ifs, ands or buts about it…. “Thompson came here and just went to the areas where he could gut Huckabee. I have no doubt in my mind, it was Washington politics at its worst. “One thing about Fred; I love Fred, but Fred’s not stupid….I don’t think he had any intention in South Carolina but to hurt Mike Huckabee…. Had Fred Thompson not been in the race, this would have been an overwhelming, dynamic victory for Mike Huckabee.” link

BINGO!!
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This Fred voter would not have voted for Huck. This is nuts. Beasley being the astute political animal he is, thinks that Thompson is in some way allied with McCain who are almost as opposite as Fred is with Obama? PLEASE! Don't make excuses.

Indies came out and voted for McCain and Huck could not pull the evangelicals for him for whatever reason. I know several around here who voted for McCain simply because of the War issue.
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You can't hold a liberal responsible for their words because it's character assassination.

BTW, these delegates are not committed to these candidates. Come convention time, candidates and delegates themselves can throw their support to others making all these primaries completely null?
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This Fred voter would not have voted for Huck

This isn't all about you, MP.

There was certainly many people who switched from Huck to Fred. That is for certain, and without the Fred factor and lies spread about Mike in the media (especially talk radio in the upstate, where Mike had major support), Mike would have won SC. He only lost by 3 points.

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On June 12, 2007, Thompson told Jay Leno that he didn’t crave to be president, but he wanted certain things done. At that time, Guiliani and McCain were still the frontrunners with no other declared candidate even close. The next presidential poll on June 15 showed that John McCain was only 4 points behind Guiliani for the lead.

As he entered the race, we learned more things about Thompson. We learned that he had been co-chairman of John McCain’s presidential campaign in 2000. We learned that Thompson had also supported McCain’s McCain-Feingold campaign finanace law denying Americans their say in the election process.

It now was obvious why Thompson had waited so long to get into the race. He was happy to stand on the sidelines as long as his buddy, John McCain, was doing well. But as soon as it looked like McCain would not win, then, and only then was Thompson willing to put up with all the trouble of running for president. He had already said he didn’t want the office. I believe Thompson would accept it if we gave him the job on a silver platter, but he isn’t willing to do any real work to get it. This was obvious with his lethargic efforts all through the autumn.

When it became obvious that Republicans wouldn’t flock to a stone-dead Thompson campaign, he just settled in and coasted, avoiding the embarrassment of a quick exit. No harm done. His buddy McCain had re-tooled and was determined to fight. If Iowa could be made a confused, close race, the winner wouldn’t have momentum. McCain still had a good chance to rack up a few early victories in New Hampshire and South Carolina, because Guiliani had made the mistake of focusing on only later primaries.

Now we are back in states where McCain can only win if the social conservative’s split their votes. It is obvious that Romney and Huckabee get most of these voters and if this group voted in a bloc for one of them, the firewall would again knock the liberal McCain out. McCain knows he can’t get these voters if they have somewhere else to go, so they need to be attacked. He attacks Romney, while his buddy Thompson is roused from sleep once more to attack Huckabee. If Thompson can steal a few of Huckabee’s votes, and McCain can damage Romney’s support, McCain will win South Carolina and have the wind at his back.

We were all impressed with Fred Thompson’s new found energy at the South Carolina debate. If he had been this kind of candidate last summer, and had sustained it for all these months, everyone knows this would have been a different race, and Thompson would probably be the expected nominee. But this didn’t happen. Thompson announced; and then sat back an waited. But why are we surprised? He already told us, he doesn’t want to be president.

From now on, whenever we wonder about the erratic behavior of Fred Thompson, the explanation is: we need to remember that all we are seeing is a McCain-Thompson tag-team with the goal of a John McCain win.
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Bingo again!!
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Gadget Wizard wrote:

Quote: This Fred voter would not have voted for Huck This isn't all about you, MP.

I don't understand these words you say....

It's just as easy to say Paul sabotaged Huck, Rudy or any other candidate. I still think way to much importance is being placed on SC primary.
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You can't hold a liberal responsible for their words because it's character assassination.

You are welcome to believe that if you wish, but many others, including myself, don't see it that way...
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