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Bush: If Need Be, We'll Do More Bailouts

I though the republicans was against big government, lately though, the Republican Party seems to have drifted from that perspective.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/11/24/bush-meet-paulson-cabinet-economy/
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Seems a bit wrong headed to me. Look what Obama seems to be planning. Any comment on that?


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Obama Chief of Staff Hopes to Exploit the Economic Crisis to Expand the Growth of Government:

In earlier posts (e.g. - here and here) I have emphasized the risk that the combination of economic crisis and unified Democratic control of Congress and the White House would lead to a vast expansion of government. It looks like key Obama advisers and congressional Democrats are thinking along the same lines. As Obama Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel puts it, the crisis is "an opportunity to do things you could not do before . . . You never want a serious crisis to go to waste." The WSJ article from which the quote comes makes clear that the "things" Emanuel has in mind are government policies that "pick winners" by subsidizing particular industries on a massive scale - as Congress is already doing with the finance industry, auto industry and others (HT: David Boaz).

Given the serious flaws in this kind of central planning, it is highly unlikely that even a well-intentioned federal government could do a better job than the market in choosing which industries to fund. On this point, F.A. Hayek's critique of government planning is still relevant - even more so than I thought when I defended Hayek's continuing relevance earlier this year. In the real world, of course, it is highly unlikely that government planning decisions will be determined by experts whose only concern is the public good. Rather, politically powerful industries will use their influence to lobby for bailouts and other government assistance that will probably be denied to the politically weak - irrespective of the true merits of helping the industries in question.

Interest group pressure has already played a key role in the congressional vote on the finance industry bailout, and it is likely to be equally important in structuring the massive future bailouts to come. Once Obama takes office, we are likely to see some $500 billion to 1 trillion in additional bailout spending - and that may be just for starters. Interest groups will play a major role in allocating this money, and they are already ramping up their lobbying efforts.

The end result will probably be an enormous transfer of resources from taxpayers and wealth-producing industries to interest groups with political leverage. That is likely to serve the interests of those groups and of the government officials in charge of doling out the government largesse. But it will also impede economic growth by transferring resources away from productive firms to those that are failing.

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That's a opinion or hypothesis, but President Bush is making it happen now.
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Don't interrupt a good old fashioned double standard, Kiss. Wink

But you're right, Bush still is the president, the duck with the wobbly leg.
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Kiss the SKY wrote:
That's a opinion or hypothesis, but President Bush is making it happen now.


I said I thought it was wrong headed. I pointed to evidence that it looks like it might get worse with Obama. I asked if you had any comment on that. Do you have one or not?

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Alexander wrote:
Don't interrupt a good old fashioned double standard, Kiss. Wink

But you're right, Bush still is the president, the duck with the wobbly leg.


Same question for you, Alex. Is it going to be just hunky-dory if Obama heads in the direction that seems to be indicated in my post or do YOU have some sort of double standard?

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What? No answer? Curious as well, looks like he is going to leave the Bush tax cuts alone for the time being. Maybe they weren't such a bad idea after all, huh? Damn that Bush.

Looks like he's putting some pro Iraq war folk in high positions, as well as keeping some. Gee, that seems sort of pro Bush in some ways. Must chap some Liberal butt.

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Dustwun77 wrote:
Kiss the SKY wrote:
That's a opinion or hypothesis, but President Bush is making it happen now.


I said I thought it was wrong headed. I pointed to evidence that it looks like it might get worse with Obama. I asked if you had any comment on that. Do you have one or not?


I can't comment on something he has not did, he is not the president, but if he stay the same course, i will disagree with him .
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Kiss the SKY wrote:
Dustwun77 wrote:
Kiss the SKY wrote:
That's a opinion or hypothesis, but President Bush is making it happen now.


I said I thought it was wrong headed. I pointed to evidence that it looks like it might get worse with Obama. I asked if you had any comment on that. Do you have one or not?


I can't comment on something he has not did, he is not the president, but if he stay the same course, i will disagree with him .


Who says you can't? You are free to read the evidence put before you and comment on it at any time. If you truly are against that sort of thing, it might pay you to know about it before hand, pay attention and see if it looks like it is coming to pass and if it does look like it is happening, raise your voice in protest.

But please, don't let me get in the way of a good Bush Bash.

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I never have Bash President Bush Rolling Eyes

And i will not bash Obama when he is president, I don't do our presidents that way, i don't stoop to that level .
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Plank #5 of the Communist Manifesto..

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking. link

Now that the state is buying up stakes in banks and other financial institutions, it looks like we are heading in this direction with our current two party dictatorship..
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